1973-S CP - another PPL-like weak hubbing?

These Peg Legs were created by the polishing (or abrading) done to the area between Ike's head and the "R" on the working or master dies.
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1973-S CP - another PPL-like weak hubbing?

Post by AaronMiller » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:39 pm

I recently found this 1973-S CP with fading similar to the 71-S PPL. In LIBERTY, the left leg of the R is faded (though the serifs are not faded), top of the B is nearly faded away, and the bottom arm of the E is faded. In the motto, the O in GOD is broken, tomahawk T at end of trusT, and weak relief. In the date, the 9 in the is open and the 7 shows signs of doubling. Your opinions please.

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1973-S PR obv.jpg
1973-S PR R.jpg
Faded left leg
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1973-S B.jpg
Faded top of B
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1973-S E.jpg
Fading on lower right of E
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1973-S PR IGWT.jpg
Broken O and tomahawk T
1973-S PR 9.jpg
Open 9
1973-S PR 9.jpg (4.4 KiB) Viewed 1658 times
1973-S 7.jpg
Doubling visible on bottom of 7 and serif.
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Re: 1973-S CP - another PPL-like weak hubbing?

Post by BrianVaile » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:57 am

WOW!
Check out the "Faded O" part! :shock:

:shock: That's pretty spooky! :shock:

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Re: 1973-S CP - another PPL-like weak hubbing?

Post by robEzerman » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:43 am

Aaron, what a great find! Hair details are reasonably sharp so this is a weakly hubbed oberse die. From our PPL "thought experiments" we can be reasonably sure this is not a weak strike as in that case details in high relief would be proportionally weaker, not the low relief details like the O of GOD. Odds are the reverse is fully struck up.

Please check for loss of frosting between inner-upper nose and much of Ike's eye. In a PPL, this area is almost flush with the field so impaired frosting. Rob
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Re: 1973-S CP - another PPL-like weak hubbing?

Post by boothill40 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:13 pm

Very cool find, it made me check some 73 proof sets I have and this turned up.
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Re: 1973-S CP - another PPL-like weak hubbing?

Post by robEzerman » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:41 pm

That is one heck of a 73-S SP R whether it qualifies fully for peg leg status or not! I hope to push in our eventual book that Ikes like yours should qualify if there is no remnant of a pointy serif visible with a loupe off our left side of the leg. The flair on to our right is round and should not disqualify peg leg candidates IMHO.

If you haven't read our article on Lamont's 73-S, here's the link: http://ikegroup.org/73spfattrib.htm Rob
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Re: 1973-S CP - another PPL-like weak hubbing?

Post by boothill40 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:38 pm

Sorry I forgot to clarify that the pic I posted is a 1973-S Clad Proof-----Tom

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Re: 1973-S CP - another PPL-like weak hubbing?

Post by AaronMiller » Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:15 pm

So I finally decided to look up the doubling I noted above in Wexler's book today, and learned that it is master die doubling (MD1). Not really anything for me to get excited about.

After looking at this coin a few more times, and comparing it to my other 71-S PPL's and Almost PPL's, I would say this is more APPL than PPL, perhaps hubbed twice but not a third time.

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