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Re: Micro S

Post by 1872Hokie » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:44 pm

Sorry for the picture quality Steve. I was trying to get something posted before heading out of town. Just got back home, so I will try to get a better shot posted tomorrow along with some other photos. Let me know when your schedule is free and I will send it over.
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Re: Micro S

Post by 1872Hokie » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:05 am

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Still some glare, but the top of the 7 is level now and hopefully this is a more workable picture.
And here is the other Silver 74-S I mentioned in this thread on page 8 back in December.
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Re: Micro S

Post by SteveP » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:12 am

The first photo still presents a problem in that the right side of the 7 is not distinct. That said, it looks more like a MMP1 than a MMP3 in this new photo. You'll have to send it to me for me to be sure.

The second photo does not look like any of the previous MMPs for a micro-S or MMS-1. It could be a seventh die (4 micro-S dies, and perhaps now 3 MMS-1 non-micro-S dies). I would want to see this one as well.
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Re: Micro S

Post by 1872Hokie » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:48 am

So Steve, I know you're neck deep in your FEV study, but did you turn up anything good in what I sent you?
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Re: Micro S

Post by SteveP » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:49 am

That is my weekend project, Bryan ;)
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Re: Micro S

Post by 1872Hokie » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:54 am

Very excited, fingers crossed! Thanks again for looking at these for me.
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Re: Micro S

Post by SteveP » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:48 pm

SteveP wrote:
SteveP wrote: MMP1
Bryan's PR69
possibly Joe's Micro-S (awaiting better photo)
Randy's 6.3.2013 Micro-S
Joe's PR66 Micro-S
MMP2
Bryan's PR68
Brian's PR68
Randy's raw Micro-S candidate
MMP3
Steve's (formerly Brian's) PR69
I have found another MMP3 - PCGS PR67.

More importantly, add:

MMP4
raw coin going to PCGS (Randy's find)

Now at least 6 different MMS-1 dies, of which 4 produced micro-S coins at some point in their production cycle.

I still have yet to find a 'not-yet-micro-s' MMS-1 coin bearing the same MMP as a true micro-S. I'm sure they exist. Post 'em if you got 'em.
Bryan adds another MMP3 to the population of Micro-S 1971S SP Ikes. (first photo below)
Perhaps more important, he finds a 7th 1974S SP MMS-1 die (second photo), making it 7 dies, 4 of which end up turning out Micro-S, and 3 of which have no known (yet) Micro-S offspring.

We're still looking for a non-micro-s older sibling of a micro-s from dies with MMP1-4.
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Bryan's MMS-1 1974S SP non-micro-S. The 7th known 1974S SP MMS-1 die.
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Re: Micro S

Post by pappyxyz1 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:19 pm

Hey Steve, though they are close, try a 4th line from the top right of the 4 to the top left or right of the E in WE should narrow it down even further.....just a random thought, like usual......R

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Re: Micro S

Post by SteveP » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:35 am

Randy's new micro-s (also a ebpl) is a MMP4 (1974S SP). I'm wrong - I overlooked that was a CP - not a SP.
four MMP1

That makes approximately (1974S SP): I'm wrong - I overlooked that was a CP - not a SP.
four MMP1
three MMP2
three MMP3
two MMP4 wrong - still only one
and seven MMS1 dies documented.

His find is the first documented in which the die treatments produced an ebpl. Wrong again The other MMP4 coin does not have a ebpl, and thus was produced after die (re-)treatments produced the micro-s, but before die re-treatments produced the ebpl.

Sorry - I should studied a bit more before posting.
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Re: Micro S

Post by SteveP » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:15 am

SteveP wrote:Randy's new micro-s (also a ebpl) is a MMP4 (1974S SP). I'm wrong - I overlooked that was a CP - not a SP.
four MMP1

That makes approximately (1974S SP): I'm wrong - I overlooked that was a CP - not a SP.
four MMP1
three MMP2
three MMP3
two MMP4 wrong - still only one
and seven MMS1 dies documented.

His find is the first documented in which the die treatments produced an ebpl. Wrong again The other MMP4 coin does not have a ebpl, and thus was produced after die (re-)treatments produced the micro-s, but before die re-treatments produced the ebpl.

Sorry - I should studied a bit more before posting.
Ok - that was a dumbass move. However, on re-thinking it, the MMP for Randy's CP micro-s is eerily close to the MMP for the actual SP micro-s MMP4. Hmmmm..... I recall Brian or Rob mentioning that same dies may have occasionally been used for both CP and SP production. Could it be? Time to re-check these two MMPs very closely. Stay tuned.
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