Do I have the start to a Pivoted FEV?

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Do I have the start to a Pivoted FEV?

Post by Irish2ice » Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:14 pm

I'm hoping I have a Pivoted FEV. At the very least, I am hoping I have the start to what will become a Pivoted FEV. All expertise and opinions are welcome.
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Post by SteveP » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:33 pm

What do you mean by Pivoted?

The L in LIBERTY on FEVs has two known dies with die cracks:
- one low and through the L
- the other higher and offset a bit on each side of the L
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Re: Do I have the start to a Pivoted FEV?

Post by AndyO » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:16 pm

I was wondering the same: What in the world does "pivoted" mean in this case?
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Re: Do I have the start to a Pivoted FEV?

Post by Irish2ice » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:06 pm

I'm referring to the pivoted double die FEV. The one mentioned in The Ike Book and listed on the price sheet.

Since the L in LIBERTY seems slightly offset where the die crack crosses it, I was evidently dreaming that it could be a pivoted double die. I can't see doubling on the reverse, as in the book, because flow lines are too heavy.

I know the crack is not as long either, so I reasoned it was minted before the crack reached the I.
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Post by AndyO » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:16 pm

Dear God, that's actually in our book? This one smells like a fantastically rationalized numismatic term....
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Re: Do I have the start to a Pivoted FEV?

Post by SteveP » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:24 pm

SteveP wrote:The L in LIBERTY on FEVs has two known dies with die cracks:
- one low and through the L
- the other higher and offset a bit on each side of the L
The one that you posted is the "low L" die crack. It also has a faint crack head. There is a DDR, but not of significance. (just checked against about 10 that I having sitting around here)
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Re: Do I have the start to a Pivoted FEV?

Post by HerbHicks » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:51 pm

I don't know if I am misinterpreting something here or not. but a pivot doubled die is a case of class 5 doubling according to Wickapedia.

<<Class 5, Pivoted
A class 5 doubled die results when the die receives an additional hubbing that was misaligned via rotation with a pivot point near the rim>>

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Re: Do I have the start to a Pivoted FEV?

Post by SteveP » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:17 pm

HerbHicks wrote:I don't know if I am misinterpreting something here or not. but a pivot doubled die is a case of class 5 doubling according to Wickapedia.

<<Class 5, Pivoted
A class 5 doubled die results when the die receives an additional hubbing that was misaligned via rotation with a pivot point near the rim>>
That I know, Herb. The confusion arose with Bob's use of the terminology "Pivoted FEV"
The one he has does not have a significant DDR, class 5 or otherwise.
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