Isands are different on some FEV's !!!

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Re: Isands are different on some FEV's !!!

Post by herbhicks » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:04 am

<<Herb, are the incuse details you see on the 72 Type 1 off the field? Rob>>

My gosh, I am not sure. Are the earth's oceans raided above the field or not? Looking at the 9 o'clock position on both the FEV and T 1, the field seems to be level with and merging with the ocean. Bill may have to take ocean soundings.

Of course, the angry eagle brow line is in the middle of a raised (on the coin) area.

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Re: Isands are different on some FEV's !!!

Post by robEzerman » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:50 am

Herb, "...ocean soundings...", that's funny!

Wexler asserts that the ocean is at field level or above in the various reverse designs, can't remember, no time to look up, but on the low relief reverses with heavy die abrasions there can be some or much abrading that continues onto the oceans but only on maybe 5 - 10% of the time. I think, therefore, that the oceans are very close to field level here but not flat with the fields.

Have not seen an FEV with visible reverse die abrasions (nor typical clash images) but my guess, and think yours also, is the oceans are a bit higher than field as would be the case with Ike proofs in order to allow frosting on the oceans to survive die field polishing. Rob
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Re: Isands are different on some FEV's !!!

Post by davew » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:09 pm

How many different reverse varieties are there for the 1971-D's?

The reason I ask is I thought I have seen a couple versions that were not the FEV.

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Post by robEzerman » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:56 pm

davew wrote:How many different reverse varieties are there for the 1971-D's?
The reason I ask is I thought I have seen a couple versions that were not the FEV.
As far as I know, only the normal low relief and the FEV reverse.

The FEV reverse is quite stable as not a whole lot of die abrading was going on.

Of the common 71-D's, however, around half the dies had clash repairs ie, abrading, and in 5 to 10% of those the abrading extended into the shallow incuse depression of the Earth, somethimes almost erasing the islands in the process, or perhaps filling the incuse island images on the die with "press goop".

At a Baltimore show in 2006, someone who said he was an Ike specialist said he had found a roll of 71-D Ikes with four distinct islands but he had left the roll in his hotel room. We agreed to meet the next day at his table but had the GI's and cancelled.

There are precious few absolutes when it comes to Ikes, so who knows what will be discovered in the next few decades?

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Re: Isands are different on some FEV's !!!

Post by davew » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:52 pm

Below are pics of the ?different? reverse of a 1971-D I have. It could be abraded die - the main third island towards South America is much smaller - the furthest East island also seems to have a very small island further East. There also are some large waves up north in the Atlanta .

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