Please Post Picture of 71-D Proof Like

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Please Post Picture of 71-D Proof Like

Post by DoubleJ » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:21 am

I have two 1971-D's that have highly reflective obverse and reverse fields and devices. I have read Chapters 21 & 24 of the Collectible Ike Variety book on 1971-D Proof Likes and Annealing Chatter. If someone that has a confirmed example of a 1971-D Proof Like, please post a picture of the coin so that I may make a comparison to my examples. When I first saw the coins, they looked like that had been dipped, but upon further examination, they lack annealing chatter. One of the 1971-D's has a Grade "A" talon clash mark with die file lines under the earth. The second 1971-D has a 3/4 inch incuse line extending above the N in IN through the N and T in TRUST, but not damaging either letter. So, it had to have been a raised line on the die surface to leave an incuse line. If the line had been a die gouge, then the resulting line would have been a raised line on the coin as one would see on Morgan and Peace dollars.

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Post by AndyO » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:48 pm

I have zero, but I bet Brian has numerous.
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Post by DoubleJ » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:14 pm

Zone of Equilibrium and Metal Low Lines. The picture is the letter ""I" of "LIBERTY" capturing the Zone of Equilibrium and Metal Flow Lines. It is very similar to Figure 6 and Figure 9, Chapter 12, pages 8 and 10 of 18 of the Ike Book.
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Post by DoubleJ » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:27 pm

Second photo is of the "I" of "IN" Although not as eradicated as in Figure 8, Chapter 12, page 10 of 18 in the Ike Book, the "I" is approximately 50% to 60% less in height of the "N" next to it.
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Post by DoubleJ » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:44 pm

Last picture is of Die File Lines from southeast quadrant of the Earth and the top of the Eagles head. The coin has a Grade "B" Jaw Line clash. The file lines were most likely an effort to remove the clash mark.
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Post by BrianVaile » Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:34 pm

Coin looks to be struck by some very worn and abraded dies!
I have zero, but I bet Brian has numerous.
Actually, I don't....'been concentrating on 40% Silver ;)

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Post by FS-801 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:23 pm

I have one that Rob confirmed, and it's a Friendly Eagle to boot. I have several others in PCGS holders. I'll share some of them here. This was my first raw PP 71-D:

1971-D FEV PP o-r.jpg

How about one that almost looks like a reverse proof?

34648412_o-r.jpg

Seller photos:

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Here's one I cherrypicked for $1.75 shipped on eBay. It saw some circulation, but you can tell it's a PP.

1971-D RAW PP #2 o-r.jpg

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1971-D RAW PP #2 ebay-pic.jpg

One more for this post.... and it's a Talon Head

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Post by FS-801 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:38 pm

Rob wanted me to post these some time back, but I just never got around to it, so thanks for creating this topic, DoubleJ. It was the perfect excuse. By the way, all the PCGS examples with certification numbers starting with 345 came out of the same original bank roll from 1971- a real, authentic, bank-wrapped roll that was put away in the 1970s. The roll contained 20 1971-Ds. Eleven graded MS65 and nine graded MS66.

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34579106-o-r.jpg

Talon Head, just like the last one in my previous post.

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Re: Please Post Picture of 71-D Proof Like

Post by DoubleJ » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:29 pm

FS-801, thank you very much for posting the pictures and you are welcome for the topic. The super sharp pictures are a real help. I hope my 71-D's measure up.

Your PL's look super!

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Post by AndyO » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:29 pm

For the record, I'm not necessarily in agreement that the mint diverted CuNi planchets from potential use as proofs to circulation strikes. I had this discussion with Rob many times years ago. I'm not saying that theory isn't possible by any means - it could very well have happened, but, we have no proof or evidence that's what truly happened. What if the mint was working to dial in the manufacturing process for the planchet strips? It' s not uncommon to over-process material through trial and error while working out production cost issues. Or, could they have come from experimental die polishing techniques? Again, just ideas, not saying any one theory is right or wrong. Very simply, we have no hard evidence of origin. I strongly encourage all to not let speculation become fact like so many "experts" do in this hobby.

If you want to suck up that kind of rationale, please read the PCGS message boards religiously...


Regardless, in my opinion, I've NEVER seen a PL Ike, despite what NGC has labeled in the past.

Personally, I think the coins in this thread look great, would definitely be happy about them regardless of origin.
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