1971-d ike you vs pcgs

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What did pcgs give it?
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Knowing PCGS... they probably graded it wrong... either MS63 or MS-64... or am I way off???
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Ms 65

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I would agree that MS65 is the right grade Not many marks, but the strike is holding it back from going any farther.

The problem is that PCGS has SO MANY over-graded Ikes out there that it's maddening. I've ranted about that for years. That coin is better than one of the PCGS MS67's I own. The ridiculous rash of pseudo PR70 Ikes has thankfully stemmed as of late also, but the damage is done. The market is flooded with over-graded junk. PCGS did both themselves and the hobby no favors by opening those floodgates for the last 10 years.

Honestly, I feel PCGS has gotten much more consistent and had far fewer over-grades since they kicked David Hall to the curb (I was never a fan of him if you hadn't picked up on that...), despite a lot of opinions from the hobby about his firing being a travesty. I don't think Don Willis did any favors there either.
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Honestly Andy thats why it bothered me. I felt the coin looked better than one of the 67s on pcgs website now.. I was hoping 66 maybe a plus grade, but 65 was unfortunate.
I think another thing that bugs me is I feel like they grade the silver ikes higher than they should. I sent some pegs in that got 65 and they look like 63 to me compared to the coin listed. I thought the strike was good looming at the cheek but dis notice it was week in trust. Take a look on pcgs and judge the three ikes shown there. Its crazy how much one looks and its 67

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66 wouldn't upset me on your coin. The first one on Coinfacts is definitely not worthy of 67 in my opinion. Not wild about the second.

I actually own the sister to the third one on Coinfacts, came out of the same bag and graded at the same time. They are both Peg Legs of the same die. Mine is a 66+, but I like it better given its luster and subtle color. However, it too has a very mushy motto strike, so, it ought to be a MS65+ ( or lower). I suppose that's why the other went 67 at the time, the overall strike is better.
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Thats a beauty for sure!

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This Friendly eagle also got a 65 a couple of years ago. This does not even get up the same day as my original coin but it came back same grade.
The peg leg came back a 66 and look at that cheek
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Weak strike or not, I just don't see the 65 grade. Ridiculous. I agree with you on the Peg Legs, daviscfad. I can't see 65 on those either, but for the opposite reason. They look like beat up 63s to me. Man, it was a bad moment on a bad day for those Ikes. :shock:
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Hi guys!

I am so frustrated with attempts to get my CU Ikes graded by both NGC and PCGS. I send them the most beautiful gems, only to get them undergraded. I then see slabbed Ikes that look like MS-63s or 64s graded both MS-65 and MS-66.

This feels more like an expensive grading lottery than anything that makes sense!

And getting back to the original topic, I think that the coin in question is a MS-66 all day long! I also sispect that some of the hair detail is just washed-out in the photographic glare. Nice coin!

David

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